As for HM slaves, Bibarel and Tropius can learn all 8 combined (Tropius - Fly, Defog, Cut, Rock Climb / Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Strength, Rock Smash). answered Jun 22, 2022 by sumwun selected Jul 9, 2022 by Fizz. No one has mentioned him but I use Diggersby as my HM SLave and he does work. And Chinchou. The main mons that cover the important ones you need (Fly, Surf, etc) are Dragonite, Lugia, Mew, Latias, and Latios. Wurmple at level 10, then at level 11, it evolved to Porygon, that's better. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. But a lot of other water Pokes work too. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still useful for inside caves!) Give Raichu Flash, Dig, Rock Smash, and Strength. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. Tropius making it in would be random as fuck but I'm here for it. Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100Eww dont put HMs on your good pokemon A bunch of people, myself included, have an "HM Slave" in our parties that just sits there and uses all the HMs like Cut, Rock Smash, etc that are horrible move-wise. Egg Moves. 4. Zigzagoon is a good HM slave in the beginning. If you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersIf you're still waiting for the e-mail, be sure to check your junk/spam e-mail foldersI got lucky enough to get a Tropius through GTS Negotiations for a female Eevee I caught in Castelia City. Hiyakkie on the other hand can learn Surf, Waterfall, and Dive. Examples of ones that will do: Sharpedo, Crawdaunt, Psyduck/Golduck. Why have 2 Charizards in one team? If you want an HM Slave, get Bibarel. All the HMs you ever need can go on two Pokémon, leaving four slots open for whatever you like and no worries as far as roadblocks, ever. around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some. Usually the. 0m. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. Fenor • 13 yr. ago. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. Chlorophyll plus solar beam, is a pure hax. Cut, Surf, and Strength. Zigzagoon covers the early HMs and Tentacool covers all Water type HMs. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. Callista08 posted. Fantastic. I find it most useful to filter "Hoenn only", and then sort by the rightmost column (total number learnable). if you have access to sinnoh and trading, definately these 2. Yeah, it's not very useful in battle with those moves, but as long as you have Pickup it's a constant source of items that you can, at the very least, sell. i recommed bibarel, ferret or linoone for cut, surf, strength, rock smash & whirlpool (HGSS) where bibarel is the most usefull HM slave because he can also learn waterfall and rock climb. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. What is the best hm slave for FireRed? Well not every Pokemon can learn all the hm moves, try tropius. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. jonosaurus • 9 yr. tropius is also a good hm slave. I use two as of 4th gen, Bibarel and Tropius. Tropius together with any of a large number of water Pokemon. ago. (rock smash, strength, rock climb) Since light travels faster then sound, people appear bright until you hear them talk. Defog (Japanese: きりばらい Fog Wipe) is a non-damaging Flying-type move introduced in Generation IV. Tropius is good as an HM slave. . Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. Zigzagoon is found on the earliest routes of the game and Linoone gets Cut/Strength/Surf/Rock Smash. Imo togekiss is excellent if u got a serene grace togepi. Cheats. 3M subscribers in the pokemon community. Empoleon is weak to Fighting, Ground and Fighting. I could use serebii to check for pokemon that can learn both, but I'm on my phone and can barely load gamefaqs, let alone serebii :X19. Generally, when they're available, Bibarel and Tropius make superb HM slaves. ago. Shuppet thief. 55 votes, 30 comments. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. Bibarel and Tropius can learn all of them between the two. I don't remember which games the Skarmory and Tropius are best for because I think it was game specific due to HM changes, but they work great. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Bibarel and Tropius still works. and tropius (flash/secretpower, secretpower/fly, rocksmash, cut) If you have a hard time memorizing areas, you can leave fly on a pokemon, and just interchange flash and secretpower (since they both tm anyway) when you need them. . Skarmory compliments Tauros well, taking on Cut, Fly, and freeing up Rock Smash. Besides, Tropius isn’t useless mechanically; it’s a viable “HM slave,” apparently carved a niche for itself within Pokémon GO’s competitive circuits, and has found some ground within Scarlet & Violet’s, which is nice. SolidOrochi 13 years ago #8 Tropius @ Hat Fly Defog Cut Rock Smash / Strength Bibarel @ Choice Band Rock Climb Rock Smash / Strength Surf Waterfall Now go and beat your friends. WhiteBladeMarth 12 years ago #2. After all, you need someone to use all of those hidden machines. The name Tropius should be Borelius or Borealius for the variant. I. I suggest slakoth and tropius. Jul 26, 2007 #4 yeah he gets cut. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "HM slave". Gameorama91 7 years ago #5. KillerFugu • 4 yr. More so than Altaria does. ive never liked pure hm slaves, i like to have at least 5 usables, if only for type. Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. It's one of the best possible HM slaves though, taking care of all the non-water HMs. Bibarel (Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Rock Smash) and Tropius (Fly, Defog, Strength, Cut). I wouldn't take chances,for finding big mushrooms/tinymushrooms for remembering. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. This in turn will. Tropius and Golduck. The only HM moves worth using in competitive battle are Surf and Waterfall. Tropius can get any combination of Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. If you are at or can get to Pastoria City, you're halfway there! You can catch both a Bibarel and a Tropius in the Great Marsh. . Tropius: Sweet scent, fly, rock smash, cut Sharpedo: Surf, dive, waterfall, strength (or if you don't care about fast surfing) Gastrodon (suction cups ability) : Surf, dive, waterfall, strength Also honorable mention for Alakazam with flash, teleportTropius, however, is good to have as an HM Slave, so there's one good thing about your team. 135 votes, 75 comments. Tropius: Fruit Pokémon 2 HP Height Weight Gender Egg Group(s) 6'07" 2. Tropius lvl. ago. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. As long as there aren't any new HMs, I'll be happy. For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Good HM Mules??". Hi all Just a notice, we recently discovered that someone got into a moderator account and started hard deleting a load of key and legacy threads. For just the land based HMs, dwebble/crustle get an honorable mention. In ORAS, I've used a Linoone. Give him Fly, Rock Smash, Strength, and Cut. My tropius holds the same moveset as Flame. Both have interesting designs, in my opinion. if you don't, golduck and furret are a good tandem. "Larz" @ 2681-0435-3081. The egg cycles of these pokemon are 25 (6,169–6,425 steps). I ended up using Latias as my HM Slave. Hm slaves are a common practice among the fans of pokémon; And put hm03 on a good water type pokémon because the move rocks. LordTrashSider. Makoscientist 14 years ago #6. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. It is also my best Pokemon at level 100, can beat nearly all others, and can 1-hit KO most Pokemon with just one Surf. :) My Emerald slaves were Zigzagoon and Spheal (with Flygon covering Fly) talli_ho on March 10th, 2010 09:22 pm (UTC) I'm a noob that doesn't have an HM slave. and don't. So, er, where do I get tropius? damn its been a long time lol. He is usually my HM slave and I didved the remaing four among my party. ORAS: Sharpedo for water (double the speed has its perks; plus it was powerful to boot), Altaria for Flying, Zigzagoon and Tropius for the other stuff. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. I use Skarmory and Bibarel. What are the two best HM slaves, like 2 pokemon that can use all the hms between them and what are the best places to find them at?. I use sharpedo for surf dive waterfall rock smash and i use tropius for fly strength cuti and sweet scent (ev horde. Cacturne has always been my favorite Hoenn grass type. Tropius is probably one of the worst options available though. Tbh I'll never regret buying the HM flutes, so nice not having an HM slave. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash. Despite these setbacks, the devs blessed Tropius with a powerful evolution in Pokémon Procyon and Pokémon Deneb. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. ago. It can learn Cut, Surf, and Rock Smash. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius=Best HM Slave in the series. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. Bibarel and Tropius. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. You find Tropius on 119, before you have the Fly HM or even access to the badge to use it. Most Grass and Water pokemon cover those 4 plus Waterfall together. Locked post. Bibarel can actually learn all the HMs except fly. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that. Bibarrel. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. The Pokémon fandom developed the term "HM slave" for creatures you don't really intend to train, but who occupy a slot in your roster for their field-navigating HM (Hidden Machine) techniques. It should look something like this snippet: Well, since you don't need the HM slave for the elite 4, I'd say replace it with your best boxed pokemon, and grind everyone up to around level 56 - 58. Gen IX Dex. By carrying around an HM slave, you don't have to allocate any of your actual team's limited moves towards often. " - Xanoe Rules. It has Pickup too, so that convinces me to keep it as an HM slave and a Pickup slave. . I used Tropius and Psyduck myself. This is my favourite HM Slave because it works great in conjunction with. 19. 1f u c4n r34d 7h1s u r34lly n33d 2 g37 4 l1f3. The point in HM slaves are to get as many HM's onto 2 pokemon as possible. Ruin Maniac Dusty (Route 111): 15% chance to get a Star PieceKrabby/Kingler makes an excelent slave, at least back in the Second Generation games. If there's an EXP Share like XY then it'll be easy to level him up. Bibarel - Cut, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Fly, Strength, Defog, Rock Smash But it looks like with a different HM05, I'll have to change their movesets slightly: Bibarel - Surf, Whirlpool, Waterfall, Rock Climb Tropius - Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock SmashDragonite. It has Fly, Strength, and Cut. Tropius is only good as an HM Slave. Fly. Skarmory's Pretty good. ago. Dwell in peace in the home of your own being, and the messenger of Death will not be able to touch you. Linoone is the best HM slave of all time (better than Bibarel) because it learns all of the stuff you'd want plus it has Pick Up. Anyways, I think there COULD be a lot less HM's. zigoon best hm slave in hoeen. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. [deleted] • 4 yr. So as I was playing my Platinum today I realized that of all my Pokemon, my Groudon knew Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and my Kyogre knew Surf and Waterfall (as well as Dive on Emerald before I migrated it). Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. Not an optimal Gyarados by any means, but still a highly usable HM slave for the in-game as well as a solid in-game water type for your team. elite-4; emerald; gen-3; asked Sep 25, 2021 by mathtodd05. 1 Kartana. ago. Also, a super effective brick break is usually weaker than a STAB return. Tropius learns the HMs Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Tropius is among my favorite HM slaves, but my Meganium was a beast going through the HG/SS metagame recently. Mirage312 15 years ago #2 Zigzagzoon for cut, surf, rocksmash. 5th Gen Dex. But he still looks awesome. "If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. Atk. Tropius LOOKS really good, but sadly, it isn't. EDIT: Aw, maybe I should have thrown Tropius a bone. The Temporary HM Slave is for Fly and Defog until you can get a Tropius from Pastoria's Great Marsh (Areas 1 & 2). Sign in with the following networks. 3DS FC: 1375-7711-9231. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. Most notably the ones people use the most. Wow, an intelligent question on my pokemon boards? Damn, I might just have to help you. . Don't remember, but I'm pretty sure that I rotated my sixth member on Gold depending on where I was traveling. Corn (Shiny so it looks like a kernel of corn) Garchomp - Super joe (From Commando and Bionic Commando) Female Garchomp - Honey Porygon2 - Bluebyrd (A kind of Plum, and another name for Duck sauce is Plum sauce, also it's shiny so it's blue) Porygon-z - Kid Dynamo Female Scizor - Vanessa (Scizor is a Mantis, Orchid Mantis is a. "One does not sell the earth upon which the people walk. when you get to route 119, catch a Tropius and use it as your hm slave. "Mega, I don't need you to defend me. I usually use him backed up by a Gyarados, Wailord or something similar. 5D graphics like in Octopath Traveler. bibarel rock climb, strength, surf, waterfall? Jbates. Do not be afraid to teach your team members hms (there isn't much movepool diversity in the earlier gens anyway). Children of the southern tropics eat as snacks the fruit that grows in bunches around the neck of Tropius. To me, Intelion takes the place of the classic "6th Grade Boy's Backpack" type character that we already have too much of such as Cinderance, Greninja, Lucario, Zeraora, Zoroark, Charizard, Scizor, etc. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. I used an Excadrill of Cut and Strength, and a Swanna for Fly, Surf, and Dive. But. . Thank you Bibarel, you’re a true friend. [deleted] • 4 yr. For Pokemon HeartGold Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius". around 150 threads have been lost dating back to 2007 and some weeks ago so we can't roll the forums back. Gyarados: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, RockSmash Tropius: Cut, Fly, Strength, Flash Smeargle: Fly, Surf, Dig, Teleport (very useful if you only. If only i wouldn't have wasted time actually looking up Tropius to be 100% sure, lol. Bibarel+Tropius get all HM's. I want Tropius to have a use again so I can just use my old Mew as an HM slave again anyway. My Bibarel has Cut and Rock Smash right now, so depending in what order I get the rest of the HMs (I. Tropius - Cut / Fly / Strength / Rock Smash Rayquaza - Fly / Surf / Strength / Waterfall / Rock Smash / Dive Fast Money Trainer's Eye: When rematching these trainers, you will automatically face their strongest team if you have defeated the Elite Four. You could probably start with Zigzagoon. Apparently, its love for fruit resulted in its own outgrowth of fruit. Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. Tropius (Japanese: トロピウス / Tropius) is a dual-type Grass/Flying Pokémon, and one of the official Pokémon featured in Pokémon Vega. hyahyahyahya • 4 mo. i use tropius and wailord. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. Tropius and Bibarel. Definitely needs a glow-up. Mew would also be a good option, but I doubt you would want to ruin its moveset (it is better off as a Baton Passer anyway). Giratina (lvl. For Pokemon X on the 3DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Tropius: Potential Lost. She's currently level 49 cause when my current team gets whooped by some lucky high-level wild one, she steps in and saves the day with one powerful Surf. Marill Surf Dive Waterfall Strenght. 5. NOTE: This playthrough used to be a nuzlocke. Strength. ReapersDemon1. For Pokemon Black Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "New play through suggestions". This Pokédex is for Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver. re: Best HM Slave? Bibarel and Tropius are the best two to use. Switch FC: SW-6466-0014-8328. The Ghetto HM Slave. Especially Strength, because once you push in a boulder, it stays in. The nidorans can learn tons, it's amazing really. PokeAMon 14 years ago #5. In Gen 4, Tropius: Cut, Defog, Fly, Rock Smash. Ah right I only use Tropius as a HM slave. I usually don't have an HM slave. ago. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. Sets up my Samurott for a guaranteed outspeed Rain Dance Mystic Water STAB, or itself, because Hurricane always hits in Rain. dragonite can learn 7 out of 8 HMs iirc! so clearly the answer is 2 dragonites. Absolute truth. KillerFugu • 4 yr. I used Linoone. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. An HM mule is an incredibly useful tool in old school Pokemon, and certain Pokemon are the most optimal options for the job. Otherwise, nope. From Lilycove, Tropius requires backtracking through R120 > Fortree City > R119. . This topic contains spoilers - you can click, tap, or highlight to reveal themI used a Tropius with Fly, Rock Smash, Cut, and Strength. FC: 2595-1420-5740. Whirlpool. Line-up is: Tropius Relicanth Spinda Kecleon Torkoal SeviperUnlike tropius who started out trash and needed a hidden ability but still ends up outclassed. Reply . Later on if you catch a Tropius, use that as an HM slave as it can learn HM. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. Together they can learn everything and, unlike Skar and Trop, they aren't rare and can be obtained before the E4. 5th Gen Dex. Thanks, I actually didn't even realize!!! If I can ask another question, what are your thoughts on this lineup: Swampert, Gardevoir, Aggron, Salamence, Breloom (not sure about this one), and Tropius as an HM slave? I'm not really sure about Breloom tbh, and I'm also considering adding Flygon just for fun. I don't have the national 'dex yet, so I can't transfer over a Tropius from my Sapphire so I can have an HM Slave with Fly and Defog. Stats. Go. ShadowBlastoise 7. (n. You can do better than that. " Element-17 Tropius + Tentacool also have all 8 HMs and Golduck much rarer than Tentacool. 2 Gallade. Surf and fly are good so I don't care giving it to good Pokemon. Masatoshitalk 16:22, 25 January 2012 (UTC) I would like to again disagree with that assertion - the very definition of HM Slave is a pokemon whose purpose is the carriage of HMs. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. good hm slave. Pickup, can learn more HMs than it can carry, cute at and cheesy competitive viability. it's the internet >_> - ILikeDesu. Tropius needs fly and defog while Bibarel needs waterfall and surf. . u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). )-Sliced. If I were able to wage threats of physical violence on whoever revamped these trainer battles, believe me I most certainly would. This POKéMON flies by flapping the leaves on its. Egg Moves. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. hlzwalkie Member. -Henry Louis Mencken. This Pokémon loves fruit, and eats it continuously. Get a Bibarel and Pelipper. I think that Magikarp is the best HM slave! :D. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. Tropius is pretty middle of the road. Hm slave Reply SamG1769420. Reaction score. What HM. The player lost the nuzlocke and is now continuing. Staravia (lvl 22): Defog, Fly. Consume product. While I was doing that I realized he. I used 3 of them in Gen5. I usually go with three:Apr 6, 2010. numel zigzagoon wailmer dodrio bellossom are good. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. My 2 mules are Venusaur (Rock Smash, Flash, Cut, Stenght; bulbasaur can learn all of them too, alternatives are Treecko, Nuzleaf, Breelom, Tropius, Absol. 4. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. for instance, What is the best HM slave in Heartgold? 8 Answers. フルティウス (Fruitius) is a Grass/Dragon-type Pokémon, and is one of the original Fakemon created for Procyon and Deneb. Tropius. Do you have any suggestions?For Pokemon Diamond Version on the DS, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Ideal HM Slave?". Dang, I was afraid of that. mew (:p muahahahahaha + one of the 2 pokemon that can learn every HM) craindose. Boards. rampardose. This^ seriously, go sharpedo and tropius or go home. Tropius can replace Ziggy later on as it can also learn Fly. What is a good HM slave? In my opinion, Bibarel is the best HM slave in every game. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Bibarel and Tropius. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. O. News. Nidorina/Nidorino: Cut, Strength, Rock Smash. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Bibarel and Tropius. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. He is such a cool design he just sucks in the games and ended up being really forgettable. . Or excellent lover. Hope this. Jan 2, 2015. <_<Tropius + Sharpedo. Every last one. . Notify me about new: Guides. It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). Hm slaves - Pelliper and Geodude Competative (Smogon OU) Clefable (Bold, cm, T-wave), Lopunny (Mega), Landorous T (Bulky rocker/breaker),. DangerMouse54 13 years ago #3. Simply by existing, this banana-bearing brachiosaurus elevates the Pokémon world, giving it more flavor. It becomes a full-fledged HM boss. Tropius is hm slave god. For example, I am training a horror team. Tropius is more "mainstream" as an HM slave. My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. 2 Ludicolo. 0. He could work, just watch out for ice attacks. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. You can't it is a hoenn Pokemon you have to trade with somebody who has a Pokemon emerald, Sapphire or ruby game card or you can get it by using GameShark codes. 4. Bibarel can learn Rock Smash, Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Climb and Waterfall. Orangen14 years ago#3. Oct 12, 2010. DRAGONITE used BARRIER! shinryu_omega 8 months ago #5. Golduck has webbed feet, making it a fast swimmer. Tropius - Fly - Cut - Rock Smash - Strength. Do you guys usually keep your HM slaves with you and only fight with 4 good pokemon and then use the other 2 just for HMs? Mario Maker 2: SteveKoopa: ID 6K7-PR2-TWG Smash Ultimate Mains: Samus, Lucas, Jokerwhat's a good HM slave for this game? I prefer one the know cut, strength, fly, and Rock Smash/ Flash.